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Anytime someone mentions the fact that Obama was born in Kenya, they get bombarded by an obamabot who likes to go by the handle of Smrstrauss. I like to call them "Strauss" for short. And let me tell you, they are so ready with the same cut and paste responses that you just know they are hard core Obama supporters. You can do a quick search of even a snippet of their responses or even the handle by which they go by and you will see what I am talking about. Neil over at Golden Geese News knows exactly what I'm talking about. Strauss is always trying to "convince the rational people that visit our blogs" that we are certifiably insane for even daring to entertain the thought that their dear leader was born anywhere but in the US.
I don't believe the idiot was born here. And quite frankly, I no longer care because he is ruining America and that is my number one issue. But then I read this little bit of news over at The Examiner today and it would seem that 2 days ago, a video was uncovered from 2008 by a British Intelligence Advisor stating that there was proof that Obama was born in Mombasa and that several people knew it and kept their mouths shut, including John McCain...no surprise there. But there are some very interesting things he says. Not only does he point out that there is DNA evidence but also that Obama was born in 1960...not 1961. Very interesting for sure. The video is here:
So when Strauss shows up...and they will...just know that they have already been weighed, measured and found wanting.
Ha, ha. ha. ha.ha, ha, ha,ha!!! If it's too late to do anything about it now, why do they fight so hard? Obama was born in Kenya, but I have a hunch that there's much more to the story than just that. I just hope that it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, just so I can watch the shit fly.
ReplyDeleteYou know what? Between your post "Bait" and this one here, ol' Strauss hasn't shown up. Either they are falling off the Bama wagon or they are now in full Hillary mode. Think I'll write a post about Hillary being born in Kenya and see what happens. lol
DeleteShrimpton is LYING.
ReplyDeleteHe is one of MANY birther liars in the past. He is like the LIARS who said that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya---when the tape recording shows that she said that Obama was born in HAWAII, repeatedly, but the birther sites simply did not quote her and cut off the tape recordings on their sites just before she was asked where he was born (I wonder why they did it).
In his blatant lie Shrimpton is like the other birther liars, like the ones who forged three “Kenyan birth certificates” (One of whom was shown by a convicted felon, one of whose past crimes was forgery, and who claimed to have gotten Obama’s BC in Kenya but refused to show proof that he, the forger, had gone to Kenya). And birther sites LIED when they said that the current governor of Hawaii, Abercrombie, said that he could not find Obama’s birth certificate (he never said any such thing, and three separate Hawaii officals of the two political parties have confirmed that Obama’s BC is in the files where it is supposed to be).
In fact, Obama has shown the birth certificate of Hawaii, short form and long form, and the officials of Hawaii of both parties have repeatedly stated that they sent them to him. Even the Kapiolani Hospital has confirmed that Obama was born there---twice (birther sites did not show either of them to you). Among those who confirmed Obama's BC was the former Republican governor of Hawaii, a friend of Sarah Palin's. And Obama's birth in Hawaii is further confirmed by the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send notices to that section of the newspaper, and it only did so for births in Hawaii).
In contrast to the FACTS above, what is Shrimpton alleging?
He alleges that Stanley Ann was not Obama's real mother (although she treated him like a mother all her life). Also he alleges that somehow Obama's Kenyan father was able to smuggle a child from Kenya to Hawaii without apparently getting a US visa for the child (You know we don't allow children to be just carried into the USA without papers) and then somehow got the officials in Hawaii to issue the birth certificate in 1961---and in 1961 the Hawaii DOH was only allowed to issue a birth certificate to children born in Hawaii. Neither is very likely, together both things happening are so improbable as to be almost impossible.
Shrimpton has claimed that three or four British prime ministers were secretly appointed by the German government and that one of them was a child molester. And yet you are trying to make a few gullible believe Shrimpton and not the former Republican governor of Hawaii, and the Index Data and the birth notices and the teacher who wrote home, to her father, named Stanley, after hearing about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley.
Here are more classic birther lies:
Delete(1) Birthers said that Obama's draft card was forged, and indeed it was forged, but Obama did not post his draft card, nor did any representative of Obama---so who do you think forged it? (Okay, I'll make it easy---the guy who posted it.)
(2) Birthers have said that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia---but a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy shows that he was never an Indonesian citizen. Why do you suppose that the birthers did not call the Indonesian embassy to check?
(3) Birthers said that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya---but the transcript of the call shows that she said the he was BORN IN HAWAII---why do you suppose they did not quote her accurately and in fact cut off the tape recording of the call on their sites just before she said "born in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time." Why do you suppose they did that?
(4) Birther sites did not tell you about SS Administration clerks making lots of mistakes and that a single digit entered wrong in the zip code would generated a SS number from a place other than where it was applied from. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?
(5) Birther sites did not tell their readers that the Kenyan government said that Obama was NOT born there. Why do you suppose they did not tell their readers that?
(6) Birther sites did not even tell their readers that there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---or how very few 18-year-olds did in those days, or how EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in those days because of the high risk of stillbirth. Why do you suppose they did not tell you that?
(7) Birther sites posted videos of Obama that claimed to show that he said "I was born in Kenya"---but you cannot see his mouth move and the originals of those videos have been found, and they do not say "I was born in Kenya.."" Why do you suppose that they forged and posted those videos? (Ditto, by the way, for three forged "Kenyan birth certificates.")
(8) Birther sites said that Obama spent “millions” on hiding his birth certificate. But Obama showed his birth certificate and did not spend a cent on hiding anything. And in fact, as birther sites did not tell their readers, there wasn’t even one lawsuit for Obama’s birth certificate or for records, not one. There were lawsuits to keep Obama off of ballots, but NO lawsuits for his birth certificate or records of any kind. Why do you suppose that birther sites implied that there were lawsuits for Obama's BC---when there weren't ANY???
(9) Birther sites said that Obama’s records are “sealed,” but they are not sealed. They are covered under the ordinary state and federal privacy laws, and Mitt Romney and John McCain and previous presidents did not release similar records either.
There you are.....been out for a bit? I'll be honest...I didn't read a single thing you wrote. After all this time, Strauss and you still copy and paste the same old crap. Do you know who is a liar? Obama is a liar. That is a fact and the only one I will be responding to.
ReplyDeleteAnd Stanley Ann did not treat Obutthead like a mother. She kept running off here and there and he was basically raised by his grandparents. He even says so himself in his book. Is he lying about his own life? (yes)
DeleteRe: "Obama is a liar. "
DeleteMany presidents have lied---that does not make them born in a foreign country.
Birthers still hope to convince a few gullible people that (1) Obama was born in Kenya—despite the Kenyan government saying that he wasn’t; (2) that Obama was smuggled as an infant from Kenya to Hawaii without being entered on a passport or having even a US visa; (3) either the officials in Hawaii (who were under a Republican governor at the time) lied about Obama’s place of birth when they issued a birth certificate in 1961 OR that the birth certificate is forged AND that the officials of BOTH parties (including the former Republican governor, a friend of Sarah Palin’s) are lying about it today, and that the public Index Data file in Hawaii is also forged, and so are the microfilms in two separate libraries of birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 which could have only been sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii (only the DOH, the “Health Bureau,” could send birth notices to the “Health Bureau Statistics” section of the newspapers, and it only did so for births in Hawaii).
No wonder Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review call birthers crazy. No wonder Paul Ryan and MItt Romney and Gingrich and Santorum and Huckabee do not believe the birthers. No wonder Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul (like all the other members of Congress) voted to confirm Obama’s election twice.
LMAO!!! Ok, now convince me Bath house Barry is a heterosexual.
ReplyDeleteC.J.
That's a big word there, C.J. Strauss...heterosexual means NOT GAY. Just thought it would be fair if you knew the meaning of the words before you try to defend your beloved. And just because others have lied, does not make it acceptable. Because others rape children, is it acceptable for anyone else to do so? Because others murder, is it then acceptable for others to do so? You are using the Cass Sunstein method of re-educating those political dissidents that are spreading "false conspiracy theories" by using agents to infiltrate political organizations by hitting their "chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups." I also note that Sunstein is from Concord Massachusetts. That is just about 10 miles from where you live Strauss, in Arlington, Mass. Tell me, am I chatting with Paul or Ann? And do you even realize in your ignorance that you are selling your soul by the very things you promote? You WILL stand before God one day Strauss. What will you say then?
DeleteRe: " You WILL stand before God one day Strauss. What will you say then?"
DeleteAnswer: The facts, of course.
Obama has shown both his Hawaii short-form BC (the Certification of Live Birth, COLB, which is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people to get their US passports every year), and he has shown his long form Hawaii BC. And the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them to him, and that all the facts, repeat ALL the facts are exactly the same, repeat, EXACTLY the same, as what they sent to him. And Obama's birth in Hawaii in 1961 is also confirmed by the public Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 by the DOH of Hawaii (and ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to that section of the newspapers, the "Health Bureau Statistics" section, where Obama's birth notice was published, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii).
For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:
(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank [she did not become a vice president until 1970], and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;
(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);
(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).
If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.
So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?
(Oh, and there isn’t even proof that Obama’s mother had a passport in 1961, and very very few 18-year-olds did, and EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in 1961 because of the risk of stillbirths. Yet birther sites hope that a few GULLIBLE people will just assume that she was one of the few to have a passport and one of the extremely few women to travel abroad late in pregnancy, and that the birth certificate is forged and the officials of BOTH parties who have confirmed it and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers and the teacher who wrote home are all lying. )
Here are some of the many links to verify the facts:
DeleteHere is a link to SOME (by no means all) of the documents in which the officials of the government of Hawaii (officials of BOTH parties) repeatedly confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii and that they sent birth certificates from Hawaii to Obama and that ALL the facts on the birth certificate put online by the White House are exactly the same, repeat EXACTLY the same, as on what they sent to him:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/heres-the-birth-certificate/
Here is the second of the confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm
Notice where it says that the document in the files VERIFIES that Obama was born in Hawaii. So, not only is there an official Hawaiian birth certificate in the files, but it says right on it that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii has never allowed the Department of Health to issue a birth document of any kind that says on it that anyone was born in Hawaii unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii, and that is what the officials in Hawaii have confirmed.
Here is the confirmation by the former governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican (and a friend of Sarah Palin’s), that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html
Here is the statement of the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, after being told of birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, of a child to a woman named Stanley:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110722055908/http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res10o2yg/obama/Teacher%20from%20Kenmore%20recalls%20Obama%20was%20a%20focused%20student%20%20Don%27t%20Miss%20%20The%20Buffalo%20News.htm
Here are the birth notices of Obama’s birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php
(And as you can see the section of the paper is called “Health Bureau Statistics”. Well, as the name indicates, and as both the papers and the DOH confirm, ONLY the DOH could send notices to that section of the paper, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii.)
Here is the Index Data file:
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/04/in_hawaii_its_easy_to_get_birt.html
Oh, and by the way, Kaiploani Hospital is confirming that Obama was born there (want to see the two citations of that too?) and Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii and she said in another interview that the first that her family had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
I realize you are not very intelligent Strauss but come on, even the most base on the intelligent scale can see that this is nothing more than tired, regurgitated vomit. No one cares anymore where the SOB was born. Don't you get it? He is destroying America. Why do you not care about that? If you put in half the effort to see that he is destroying us as you do into the whole born in Hawaii crap, you would see this. But you are blind. Are you seriously telling me that you will stand before God Himself and tell him the FACTS that Obama was born in Hawaii? I'm pretty sure God already knows everything He needs to know about Obama and I am also pretty sure that God could also care less WHERE he was born as opposed to WHAT he is doing.
DeleteRe: "No one cares anymore where the SOB was born."
ReplyDeleteThe article above says "I don't believe Obama was born here." So the author cares, and the author is wrong.
Re: "Are you seriously telling me that you will stand before God Himself and tell him the FACTS that Obama was born in Hawaii?"
God already knows that Obama was born in Hawaii. But, there is nothing whatever wrong with saying: "As You and I know, God, Obama was born in Hawaii."
God may not care where Obama was born, but the author of the article above clearly does care and thinks that Obama was born somewhere else. Well, the facts show that that is wrong, and it is always useful to know THE FACTS.
As for "destroying America"--that is your opinion, and you have the right to it. Millions of people disagree with you. In any case, he is a Natural Born US Citizen due simply to his birth on US SOIL, in Hawaii. EVERY child born on US soil is a Natural Born US Citizen.
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
And, since he is a Natural Born Citizen and was re-elected president of the USA on November 6, 2012 (with nearly five million more votes than Mitt Romney) and since he was elected by the US Electoral College (without a single member changing her or his vote to vote against Obama), and since he was confirmed by the US Congress UNANIMOUSLY (and that includes the votes of Rep Michele Bachmann and Rep. Ron Paul) and was sworn in by that RINO, the Chief Justice of the USA, he is the president of the United States, and will remain so until his term ends in January 2017. And, if anything were to happen to him, Joe Biden (who is slightly to the left of Obama) would become president.
You are such a hypocrite Strauss. On the one hand you state that I am wrong for my opinion but in the next sentence, you state that it is my opinion and I am entitled to it. And you are delusional. About many things and absolutely none of them are your eyes open to. You go have a "nice" life there Strauss. Hope your Soros paycheck is worth your soul.
DeleteYour opinion about Obama being a bad president is yours, and you have the right to hold it. Others disagree with you, and they have the right to their opinions too. Claims made in the main article that Obama was born in Kenya or that in general he was not born in Hawaii are not opinions, they are statements of incorrect facts---and they are WRONG. In part, they are based on the deliberate LIES of birther sites, such as the nine examples of lies shown above.
DeleteIn part the incorrect statements of facts are based on ignoring the real facts, such as the links that I have provided. These links show that Obama has published both his short form and long form birth certificates from Hawaii. Also that the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent them to him. Also that those officials have confirmed that the facts on the published copies of the birth certificate are exactly the same as on the copies they sent to him. Also that Obama's having received a birth certificate is confirmed by the the public Index Data file and the birth notices and by the teacher who wrote home.
As for Obama being a good or bad president, that is a statement of opinion.